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Quotes have been selected for a variety of reasons including truth, irony, fun, and in some cases because they are just plain scary (but germane). That a quote is included here should not be taken to imply that it is endorsed, and it certainly should not be taken to imply that the source of the quote is endorsed. Some very evil people occasionally say true things.


“Whiffle [whine and wheeze and snuff and sniffle]: The annoying scratchy sound made by weepy feminists as they lament the sufferings of women and, houndlike, sniff out evidence of male oppression.”
      - Camille Paglia

“You have to accept the fact that part of the sizzle of sex comes from the danger of sex. That you can be overpowered.”
      - Camille Paglia

“I grew up in a time when men believed that they had a right to expect obedience from their wives. That notion was repulsive me. I swore that I would never treat a woman as anything less than, or other than, my equal. Now, after being married to a feminist for twenty-plus years, I am confronted by a woman who wants me to be stronger than her and who has actually said that “love, honor and obey” is a comfortable thing for her. Being a dominant husband is something I never planned to do.”
      - CarlF

“What in the liberal view looks like love and romance looks a lot like hatred and torture to the feminist.”
      - Catherine MacKinnon: Toward a Feminist Theory of the State, 1989

“What is sexual is what gives a man an erection... If there is no inequality, no violation, no dominance, no force, there is no sexual arousal.”
      - Catherine MacKinnon

“Woman is a violent and uncontrolled animal, and it is useless to let go the reins and then expect her not to kick over the traces. You must keep her on a tight rein . . . Women want total freedom or rather – to call things by their names – total licence. If you allow them to achieve complete equality with men, do you think they will be easier to live with? Not at all. Once they have achieved equality, they will be your masters . . .”
      - Cato the Elder 234–149 B.C., quoted in Livy’s History of Rome

“Women today are not satisfied. ... They want men, but all they find are little boys.”
      - Charles Manson

“If you're going to be intimate with someone, it shouldn't be for ANY reason other than it's what you want & what you're comfortable with. You do not owe someone sex because he took you out to dinner or whatever. You don't owe him sex just because he's taken you out on ”6 dates over a 3 week period,” or any other number of dates over any other period of time. Yes, I know that some men feel this way, & a few men I've dated in my life have tried to “guilt” me into bed on a similar basis. It undoubtedly works for them at times, particularly with women who have self-esteem issues, & being so anxious to keep a relationship continuing that you'd have sex with someone when you're not really comfortable doing so tells you two things, at least: (a) you do have self-esteem issues & (b) he cares much more about himself than he does you or a potential relationship with you (generic “you”).”
      - Charlotte

“When you see your wife commit an offence, do not rush at her with insults and violent blows: rather, first correct the wrong lovingly and pleasantly, and sweetly teach her not to do it again... and if this ... doesn't work, take up a stick and beat her soundly.”
      - Friar Cherubino Da Siena: Rules of Marriage (1489)

“A bride received into the home is like a horse that you have just bought: you break her in by constantly mounting her and by continually beating her.”
      - Chinese proverb

“To the uninitiated and uninformed, submission can imply that a person has no power or self-esteem. I can assure you that that is not the case. . . . My lack of power... makes me feel fantastically powerful; my power is an important part of who I am and what I am.”
      - Claudia Varrin: Erotic Surrender: The Sensual Joys of Female Submission

“Women do not find it difficult nowadays to behave like men; but they often find it extremely difficult to behave like gentlemen.”
      - Sir Compton Mackenzie 1883-1972: On Moral Courage

“It is a law of nature that women should be held under the dominance of man.”
      - Confucius (ca. 500 BC)

“Most people in Taken In Hand relationships would not dream of shoving their lifestyle down another's throat as ‘the one true way’.”
      - ConfusedofHomeCounties

“Abraham Maslow… spent some time studying dominance in women. … He questioned a large number of women and soon learned that they fell into three ‘dominance groups’ – high, medium and low. The high dominance women were, as you might expect, precisely five per cent of the total. Sexually, they were inclined to promiscuity and experimentation – many had had lesbian experiences or tried sadomasochism. They liked males of even higher dominance, and regarded the male sexual organ as beautiful.

Medium dominance women, the largest group, were basically romantics. They liked the kind of men who would take them to restaurants with candlelight and give them flowers. They were looking for Mr Right. They were capable of a certain amount of promiscuity, but it was essentially a second best – what they really wanted was a husband who was a good father and provider. They also wanted him to be slightly more dominant than they were, but not too dominant. Very high dominance males scared them. This group didn't have any strong feelings about the male organ.

Low dominance women didn't much like sex. They liked the kind of man who would admire them from a distance for years without daring to say so. They were terrified of high dominance males, and thought the male organ downright ugly.

But all three groups needed a male who was more dominant than themselves. One very high dominance woman searched for years for such a male and when she found him she was finally happy. But he wasn't quite dominant enough, and so she used to provoke quarrels that would end with him slapping her about, hurling her on a bed, and raping her. These sexual experiences she found most satisfactory of all.”
      - Colin Wilson, pages 27-28 in the introduction to The Gates of Janus by Ian Brady

“Most women have small waists the world throughout,
But their desires are a thousand miles about.”
      - Cyril Tourneur: The Revenger's Tragedy (1607)

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The sexuality of ‘non-sexual’ dominance
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Looking into the mirror of life
Each relationship is a unique work in progress
Who says you have to be submissive?

Comments

#1 Charles Manson

I agree with this. I'm all in favour of wide-ranging quotations, but I feel that known psychopathic murderers should perhaps be excluded, quotes from the likes of Manson are not exactly reassuring for anyone who may be dubious about this lifestyle!

#2 Guilt by association

Louise, I am sorry you feel worried about this, and I do understand your concern, but if a reader rejects Taken In Hand because an evil person such as Charles Manson or Adolph Hitler once made a statement that is consistent with Taken In Hand, that reader is falling into the error of the logical fallacy known as “guilt by association”. It does not follow from the fact that Charles Manson or Adolph Hitler said or believed X that X is necessarily untrue. Occasionally, they must have said something true.

It is natural not to like to be associated with evil individuals, but it is simply irrational to reject an idea on the basis of its source.

Keeping quiet about the fact that Adolph Hitler or Charles Manson said something we agree with will not stop those who have it in for Taken In Hand finding those quotes and making fallacious arguments in manipulative attempts to turn others away from Taken In Hand. But this is only to be expected. And judging from the number of hits this site is getting courtesy of sites on which Taken In Hand has been branded “sick”, “disturbing” and so on, I really don't think Taken In Hand has anything to fear from this. :-)

#3 Odd...

It's odd that the Charles Manson quote has attracted some ire because of what he did even though the quote isn't exactly offensive, yet other quotes such as The Boyd Rice Experience one and the Marilyn French one are far stronger in their views.

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"There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so" Hamlet, somewhere.

#4 Marilyn French

Yes, but Marilyn French isn't a psychopathic murderer (as far as I know) just an author of badly-written but popular novels. I've no idea who Boyd Rice is, I'd never heard of him until I saw these quotes. I think it's the idea that quotes of a known evil criminal might cause unease in people who think that the Taken In Hand thing is totally bizarre anyway, whereas they are unlikely to be disturbed by quotes from Marilyn French or Boyd Rice. I mean, i can just hear people going "These people are quoting Charles Manson - that's sick!"

#5 Camille Paglia

From Camille Paglia; found at Funny Junk (http://www.funnyjunk.com/quotes/authors/7173/Camille+Paglia) and at Borndigital (http://www.borndigital.com/camille.htm)

Take your pick of these thoughts - they're a puzzling mixture! I've arranged them in order, from 'men are the tops' to 'men are ruled by women':

If civilization had been left in female hands we would still be living in grass huts.

Out with stereotypes, feminism proclaims. But stereotypes are the West's stunning sexual personae, the vehicles of art's assault against nature. The moment there is imagination, there is myth.

If you live in rock and roll, as I do, you see the reality of sex, of male lust and women being aroused by male lust. It attracts women. It doesn't repel them.

No woman has to prove herself a woman in the grim way a man has to prove himself a man.

A major failing of most feminist ideology is its dumb, ungenerous stereotyping of men as tyrants and abusers, when in fact - as I know full well, from my own mortifying lesbian experience - men are tormented by women's flirtatiousness and hemming and hawing, their manipulations and changeableness, their humiliating rejections. Cock teasing is a universal reality. It is part of women's merciless testing and cold-eyed comparison shopping for potential mates. Men will do anything to win the favor of women.

Far from poisoning the mind, pornography shows the deepest truth about sexuality, stripped of romantic veneer....What feminists denounce as woman's humiliating total accessibility in porn is actually her elevation to high priestess of a pagan paradise garden, where the body has become a bountiful fruit tree where growth and harvest are simultaneous.

Woman is the dominant sex. Men have to do all sorts of stuff to prove that they are worthy of woman's attention.

Teenage boys, goaded by their surging hormones, run in packs like the primal horde. They have only a brief season of exhilarating liberty between control by their mothers and control by their wives.

It is woman's destiny to rule men. Not to serve them, flatter them, or hang on them for guidance. Nor to insult them, demean them, or stereotype them as oppressors. ... It is not male hatred of women but male fear of women that is the great universal.

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