Help! The one I love nowadays rarely wants sex!

“Help! I've been with my husband for 5 years, and we have a great marriage in most respects, except in one area: sex! When we first met, he couldn't keep his hands off me, and we were at it morning, noon and night. But now if we do it once a week, I'm lucky. My husband's interest in sex hasn't just diminished, it's died a death. I'm crawling up the walls here! I'm a normal red-blooded woman who needs sex at least three times a day (OK, OK, at least twice a week) to feel sane. I love him to bits and I can tell that he really loves me too, so how come he seems to have lost interest? It really hurts when he's not interested. I've tried seducing him, dressing sexily for him, date nights, a sex contract (hey, don't blame me, it's what a counsellor recommended!), surprising him with a candle-lit bath with rose petals and scented bath oil etc., etc., and nothing has worked.” – Mandy

“Can you advise me what a man can do to rekindle the fires of romance in his wife after 19 years of marriage? For the last 11 of those years, we've had sex maybe 30 times in total and I'm about ready to have an affair. I've tried everything I can think of, but she just gets irritated and snaps at me.” – Simon

It is very common problem in long-term conventional relationships for one partner to lose desire for the other. Men lose interest; women lose interest. There is no gender divide here. There are many possible causes, but in many cases, the problem can be solved quite easily, so take heart and read on! I am assuming that in the past, the person you love did love having sex with you, that you have a reasonably good relationship otherwise, and that there are no other problems such as a lack of self-confidence on the part of the other person, etc. If the reason your wife has gone off sex is that you do not find her attractive or you have taken to spending hours on the internet looking at porn, then the problem is a very different one, and is not likely to be solved by the simple measure I am suggesting here.

Feeling pressured kills desire

You may be at a loss to know what caused the problem. Perhaps it started one day when your husband, who was a bit tired after a spectacularly bad day at work, did not feel up to a wild night of passion, and you were slightly insensitive to this, or you became a little anxious that he did not respond as you hoped he would. It might have started any number of ways, but however it started, one thing that is guaranteed to exacerbate it and prolong the problem is pressure.

One of the reasons being taken in hand can be so exciting is, paradoxically, that in eroticising control, it creates real desire and real consent. It turns what could be off-putting, unpleasant control into erotic indulgence, pleasurable attention, positive engagement. It tends to eliminate unwanted pressure! So in the long run, you might want to move to the kind of relationship we discuss on Taken In Hand. But if the person you love is feeling put off pressure for sex, for some, it might be wise to take the course of action detailed below first, to avoid counterproductively adding further undesirable pressure.

When people feel pressured to have sex, it tends to put them right off. Unfortunately, in conventional relationships it is all too easy to exert pressure despite your best intentions. When you want sex, you hope your man wants it too, and if he doesn't, if you are in a conventional exclusive relationship, you are likely to feel a bit disappointed. Sensing your disappointment, your man feels bad, because on the one hand, he wants to make you happy, but on the other, now is really not a good time for him. He might even feel a bit resentful that you seem insensitive to his lack of desire at this moment. He feels a bit pressured. Your expectation is a little off-putting. This leads to a slight dampening of his sexual desire for you which, if you are lucky, will be rectified shortly, but might be exacerbated by more inadvertent pressure on your part.

It is not that you are a horrible person: you are a human being with human wishes and desires and, perhaps, insecurities. You want the person you love to want you, and when he shows signs of not wanting you, it is human to panic slightly, or to begin to feel a bit desperate for sex. Your man then experiences your panic or desperation as further pressure, and that puts him off even more... which makes you panic and feel even more desperate for sex... and so on, in a vicious circle.

The problem with this sort of vicious circle, apart from the fact that you are “crawling up the walls”, is that once your man is feeling slightly pressured (for whatever reason),

he is then going to be hypersensitive to any further pressure, and worse, he is going to interpret even the most innocent questions, statements, and actions on your part, as yet more pressure.

You may think that snuggling up against your wife in bed and thus making your desire for her, er, felt, is just your way of letting her know you are, er, up for it. But if your wife is already feeling under pressure sexually, she will find this annoying, insensitive, pressuring (and not just literally!),

and distressing. She is more likely to be having dark thoughts about giving you a Bobbit job than giving you a blow job.

Similarly, you may think that when you answer the door to your husband naked and then lead him to your bedroom where you have waiting a bottle of Champagne and a new sex toy (and not just one of the intimidating ones either),

you are giving him a nice surprise. But if he is already feeling pressure to have sex with you, or to have it more often, not only is he likely not to respond positively, he is likely to feel resentful you for putting him under pressure in this way. If the other person reacts irritably to anything which might possibly be perceived to be pressure for sex, it is likely that pressure is at least part of the problem.

Even very subtle things can cause problems. For example, if you have (whether by chance or design) a particular routine, ritual, or code associated with having sex (e.g., when he has a shower before coming to bed, that means you will have sex; or when she says, “The kids are asleep but I'm not!”; or if you can set your watch by the sexual routine you have) this can, with a bit of bad luck, turn into a pressuring expectation that puts the other person off. And unless you manage not to panic, your reaction to the other person's drop in interest is likely to exacerbate the situation.

Remove all pressure

Back off. Don't –

- have sex
- ask for sex
- hint that you want sex
- look sad/upset/angry/sulky/disappointed
- make comments
- try to seduce him/her
- press yourself against him/her in bed
- turn a massage into sexual touching
- dress sexily to tempt him
- wander around naked
- talk or joke about sex
- spring romantic surprises on him
- masturbate in his presence
- threaten to see other people
- bring her flowers/chocolates to soften her up
- talk about past times when the two of you were having lots of sex
- be impatient
- try harder
- try so hard to please that you appear desperate
- force the issue

That is, don't do those things.

Don't even dress or undress in front of him. (I am not joking. This is important!) Keep the bathroom door locked when you use it, and start wearing non-sexy pyjamas in bed. Never be naked in his presence. When you are feeling pressured for sex, you can experience that as more pressure.

Do be very friendly, attentive, loving, happy, and fun in other ways. You do not want to appear to have lost interest more generally. This is about removing pressure and anything that might be seen as pressure, not about playing games or making the person doubt your love.

Don't just try this for two weeks or a month, think in terms of six months, otherwise you will be inadvertently exuding upsetness about the lack of sex, and that will turn him/her right off instantly. Think longer term to give this a chance of working.

This works because in many relationships, when one person is less interested, instead of backing off, the other tries harder to get the person to have sex. This puts the other person off even more, and causes the other to become even more desperate to get sex... and so on in a vicious circle. No matter how much the one being pursued for sex might want to want it, he just can't. He needs space to find his own desire again. So back off – but be friendly and happy and nice in non-sexual ways. If he likes being massaged, massage him without even the slightest hint that you want sex. Not a single hint of any kind. If she likes sensual perfumed baths with candles and soft music and a glass of Champagne, give her that – and don't even think of dropping any hints that you want sex.

Even when your partner does show flutterings of interest, do not have sex – yet. Remain strong. Instead, first, for some time – like many days or weeks (depending on how bad a case yours is!) – appear not to notice that they are showing signs of being interested in you sexually again. Continue to be friendly, loving, and nice, but do not even think of showing interest in them sexually. The reason I think you should not jump into sex at the first sign of interest is not to play games with the person you love (no!) but in order to be sure that the desire is real, wholehearted, and great enough that having sex will not yet again make the person feel icky and pressured and put off. In these cases, the first flutterings of desire are fragile and the person is still in a state of hypersensitivity to anything which could possibly be interpreted as pressure. So you need to wait until the flutterings have become an urgent, wholehearted feeling of need on the other person's part. This can take some time.

Find constructive ways to feel good

While you are doing all this, do things for yourself to make yourself feel good, and to make yourself feel attractive and confident, if that is in any way in doubt. Develop your own life. Increase your self-confidence by becoming more aware of others who are attracted to you. If your husband's lack of interest was killed by insecurity, or if he lacks confidence, avoid like the plague doing anything that might exacerbate that. But if he does not have that problem and just appears to have gone off sex with you for no apparent reason, the following might be worth doing:

When you and your uninterested husband are out with other people, and you notice a man looking at you, smile at him rather than pretending not to see. Start noticing these sexual signals from others more, and don't worry if your partner sees. Unless he has been turned off you as a result of you having been flirting (in which case, on no account do this or anything he might perceive as flirting!) it will help if your partner sees that others are attracted to you. Get yourselves invited to a party or two, dress really well, and let the one you love see that other people find you attractive, and even flirt a little (just a little). If you do do this, on no account do it in such a way that it appears to be hostile, threatening, or humiliating to the one you love. Of course if what you do appears to your man to be a desperate attempt to make him jealous, it will be totally counterproductive. The point of this is that looking through someone else's eyes can lift familiarity-induced blindness.

Avoid falling into old pressuring patterns again

Hold off from sex until he is not just begging for it, but crawling up the walls in desperation for it!

Then, after you have first had sex, instead of falling back into a pattern in which you were trying to get him to have sex, and he was pulling away from you, be careful to avoid pushing for sex. Sometimes appear friendly but uninterested again. Don't go back to trying to seduce him or her. Instead, let him initiate – at least for a long time, until you are sure that everything is all right and you have a sexual connection again. This is not about playing games, it is about avoiding exerting off-putting pressure.

Eventually, your man will become interested again. But it will only work if you manage to back off completely. If you are a man, and you just can't resist thrusting your erection into her back at night, or wandering around naked in front of her, or watching her lustfully as she undresses, you are not going to get anywhere, because you have not backed off. If you are a woman whose man seems uninterested in you sexually, and you sigh sadly whenever a love scene comes on on the TV, or if you try to dress to kill for your man to try to seduce him, or you masturbate in bed next to him, etc., you have not backed off. You have to stop all that – everything. Desist! Back off! Give his desire a chance to re-surface. Give her the psychological (and physical) space to create her own desire. BACK OFF. Have I said that enough times yet? I find that people just aren't aware of all the hints they are dropping, all the ways in which they have not backed off – so search for those and desist.

Afterwards

If the other person has been feeling pressured, I suggest removing the pressure as above first, before trying to introduce intimate control dynamics, because of the risk that the other person may experience that as further pressure. If pressure has played no part in the other person's lack of interest, then it might well be safe to go ahead and raise the subject of introducing control into your relationship, and Taken In Hand. Best of luck!

the boss

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Not wanting sex

This is a very common problem and we think, far too often, of using nice sexy ploys when the problem (in the absence of loss of love) is actually down to your good old hormones (though make sure to exclude clinical depression). Sexy toys and other goodies will NOT help if your driver (your hormones)is just not up to it. For women have your oestrogens checked; for men it is a bit more complicated.

A normal testosterone level in a man does not mean he has enough to load the gun...he needs to have enough FREE testosterone. Many labs don't have the facilities but you can shop around and find one. A good place to start is to read one of the excelent books by Dr Malcolm E. Carruthers, on the subject of the 'andropause' (the male menopause). I does exist. At 63 I now have the sex-drive of a teenager... until I started treatment 6-7 years ago, however much I loved my wife, lack of libido and 'lift-off' were a major problem... now it ain't!! We tried all the usual treats but they didn't work until I was treated for a loss of free testosterone. Nathan.

Sex and desire

As 'Nathan's' wife, now 24/7 slave, I can vouch that what he says is quite true. Before he sought medical treatment our sex life was going nowhere, in spite of all the toys. Now, as he says, it is fantastic.

On the subject of my enslavement, written by 'Ben', it is wonderful. It is a totally caring, loving, ever-growing, deeply fascinating inter-twinement of our two beings. If two years ago I had thought that giving myself completely to him without question would be this good I should have probably laughed.... but for the doubters, why not just try it. I am not a doormat, I am not ordered about, I am a free woman within my total enslavement - which is only to my Master and no other person in the world. It is about my total love, my total care and my total obedience. If you don't understand the paradox about total enslavement with total freedom why not look at some of the writings on TPE. xxx clotos - Ben Nathan's 24/7 lover

sex, desire, total enslavement with total freedom

Seeing my clotos has written today (as well as me)I thought I should write saying how much I agree with what she has said. She is totally free to do whatsoever she likes within the freedom of what she gains from her enslavement. She is not ordered to do anything.. she is loved and encouraged to do what I think is needed EG she would love to lose 20+ lbs but cannot... so with loving boundaries set and all the meals (which she loves) made for her, since I do all the housekeeping, her weight is dropping steadily by two pounds per week having been fixed at 'too much' for over two years in spite of Dr Atkins and all sort of 'diets'. This woman, whom I have known for 35 years is MY woman, just as I an HER man... there are no others and can be no others because we have achieved such a sense of belonging to each other... something that has grown without measure since she asked for enslavement.

I agree with her when she says if you don't understand it, try a few TPE sites and give it a try... if you don't like it don't do it.. it will probably not work for superdoms who MUST be obeyed or supersubs who MUST submit.. but for ordinary Joe Soaps, like us,it is heaven on earth.

Take care of your lover ... she/he can't easily be replaced.

Dealing with Lack of Desire

I have to say, sorry, I don't agree with this article one bit. A little patience is one thing but to expect a spouse who has probably already waited a number of months to a year without any sex before getting to the point of being seriously worried that desire is dead, to wait another six months in the hopes that desire will magically come back when "pressure" ceases? I don't think so.

Even if a person isn't interested in sex at the moment, he or she can do certain things to satisfy his or her partner. I don't think that is too much to ask of someone who cares. And you never know, it might kick start the old engine, unless blood flow is the problem. Instead, by waiting and not giving the slightest hint that you want sex, I think you are enabling the person who has lost desire. You are encouraging him or her to get nice and complacent with the idea that they don't have to give you anything sexually and you will still be around and loving them.

In fact, what such a person has done is to break the marriage vows. Yep! Before no-fault divorce, one ground for divorce was abandonment. While originally this meant actually packing up and leaving the marital home for a year or more, another type of abandonment, known as "constructive abandonment," referred to refusing to have sex with your spouse for a year or more.

So if you have approached your spouse in a loving and friendly way, inviting him or her to have sex with you, you are not to blame for "pressuring" him or her. Your spouse could choose to satisfy you even if not in the mood for satisfaction him or herself. Making the choice not to join in with you is NOT your fault for pressuring. A little firmer "pressure" might actually have a good result.

Isn't that the point of a spanking? Doesn't it make a firm point that you care and you aren't going away? So would insisting that the sex problem be talked about and addressed and a solution found.

In my case it worked to some degree to put a proverbial gun to my husband's head and tell him that four episodes of sex in two years was unacceptable...either he do something about seeing a doctor, or I wanted an open marriage with both of us having the right to have affairs.

It was just amazing how fast he got a prescription for Viagra.

Putting a gun to the guy's head

My wife pulled a similar stunt and it put the nail in the coffin of my love for her. She was always pressuring me for sex and getting mad when I didn't feel like it. I didn't have a medical problem I had a wife problem. We're divorced now and I have a great sex life with my girlfriend.

Terry

|||A little firmer "pressure"...

|||A little firmer "pressure" might actually have a good result.
Isn't that the point of a spanking? Doesn't it make a firm point that you care and you aren't going away?|||

Taking control and exerting pressure with a spanking, in a way that turns the person on, would certainly work for me but if your man wouldn't find that erotic it might backfire.

Second point: in a marriage, if you're at the point where you're standing on your rights your relationship's dead in the water if you ask me. I hope this doesn't offend anyone, it's my honest opinion based on 19 years happily married to the same man.

Margaret

Not wanting sex

All the answers are very good but why, as Nathan has pointed out, do people not understand that a lot of this, if you still love each other and are not clinically depressed, is simple biology ... hormones. Why not get them checked before you check out of your relationship.It only takes ONE visit to a competent endocrinologist and with, for example, testosterone gel you will be motoring again in days.. add Viagra and you will be youngsters again and wonder what all the fuss was about... rather a lot cheaper (and much more fun ) than getting involved with lawyers and breaking up everything you have both tried to build over years.
medicus

Not Wanting Sex

I have to say that I agree with the comments about breaking the marriage vows. If I had wanted a life without sex, I would have become a monk. Too often when there is a problem with a couple's sex life, there is no communication and if there is, it is usually on sided. If one spouse does not desire sex then that person should at least explain why to the other spouse. At that point, the spouse who would like to have more sex can make some choices such as counseling, living without sex or going outside the relationship.

What's wrong with me?

We made love and had lots of sex our first 8 months together. Then he moved into my home and once he did he told me we could not have sex all the time just because we were living together. I thought I understood. A few months went by and our time spent together sexually became less and less. I tried everything I could think of from ignoring it to dressing up to all kinds of playfulness. I have tried talking about it and he explains that sex isn't love, etc.,etc. He always has his philosophies. I have been rejected more times than not over our past five years together. He tells me how much he loves. He does other nice things for me and gives me hugs and pecks. . .sometimes I get a good kiss! But, passionate sex seems to be out of the question. He always looks at other women and even verbally flirts with them in front of me ( sometimes I am embarrassed ).Is he just bored with me? I have often felt he knew he would not have much sex with me because he announced it once his last stick of furniture was moved in. I just didn't get it at the time. I am okay looking - trim - and try to take care of myself. I have several other interests but I find myself dwelling on his rejection and my other losses. ( I sold my home of 25+years and moved across the country away from all of my family and friends...for love). I am broke now but still in love. I wonder why he loves me but doesn't want to have sex with me. I welcome any suggestions. Thanks!

The Hormone Thing

Hormones have been mentioned as a possible (if not likely) factor in a low sex drive. My wife (age 43) has been to her primary doctor and gynecologist a couple of times on this issue.

She is meeting a lot of resistance, mostly of the "don't worry your pretty little head about it" variety. She is intimidated enough by doctors that she finds it difficult to assert with them. While quite strong in other areas, she has a "thing" about doctors.

Rather than going too far into the specifics of her case, I'd like to know in general how other women have dealt with the issues of perimenopause either with a doctor or in other ways.

I'm not asking for medical advice but, instead, am asking what kind of information she/we can collect and what kinds of questions to ask. What kinds of things have worked for other women who have faced a declining sex drive in their mid forties?

How does this relate to the general area of being Taken in Hand? Well, a lower sex drive caused by hormonal imbalance makes it more difficult to re-invigorate the erotic side of our relationship etc.

I also fear that my wife has

I also fear that my wife has a low sex drive, and on top of that, we're in some sort of power struggle. My relationship could be better, so I'm going to take the pressure off and see what happens. I only fear is that she'll see that as a sign of the power struggle, and giving in to her is not an option. I so wish she would allow me to take her in hand, that could solve all the problems I think

Attitude?

Burbman wrote:

I so wish she would allow me to take her in hand, that could solve all the problems I think
It would not if she would not like it, only if she would. Maybe she'd prefer to take you in hand instead. Have you tried talking to her? Does she experience all these conversations as yet more pressure? If so, well, taking the pressure off her might be a good start.

One thing that seems a slight mistake in your attitude is this wishing she would allow you to take her in hand. It may be just a matter of words, but the way you worded that, it sounds insufficiently interested in what she herself wants, and if that is the case, she is bound to find that attitude off-putting. It could be that all that is needed is a slight change in attitude and the removal of all pressure including by virtue of your wanting to get her to be interested/let you take her in hand, etc.

Not just women...

My partner is in his mid-30's. I met him when he was just turned 30. Since day one it's obvious he's not impotent, but it's equally obvious that he has low libido. We rarely have sex. Last time was a month ago, and while he had no problems achieving erection or orgasm, it didn't last very long, and there was less foreplay that I would have liked. Even early on the foreplay was often awkward with him. The odd thing is that he's experienced, and very competent at times. It's just very uneven, and rare. *sigh* It's not just women who don't want sex for whatever reason.

Husband not wanting sex

I have to disagree about the advise to "remove all pressure", NOT want sex , not dressing seductively, avoiding all hints for sex. I tried that in my marriage for many years. Ultimately the only time I got sex was when I had forgot about sex long enough and gave NO indication I wanted it (this took 3-4 weeks most times -- grew into 3-4 months). Out of fairness, I would comment that you explore medical issures -- and if they exist have patience "in sickness or health" -- if there is no medical reason for him to avoid sex (ie he avoids because he has difficulty) then my verdict is the man is selfish and no amount of trying or trying not trying will help!

I suffered years in a relationship where sex happened only as long as I did nothing to initiate it and when I tried to seduce him, he would withhold longer -- claiming "pressure" made him feel bad. In the end he cheated on me claiming that I was too boring in bed -- well I don't know about you, but when I only got sex by avoiding any indication it was desired by me and ultimately that meant not exuding feelings of being hot and horny I may not have been at my best (besides I was a virgin bride and the first 8 months I got sex maybe once a week -- he even yelled at me and pushed me away during the honeymoon).

I am now divorced and have since met someone who assures me that I am anything but boring in bed. He has allowed me to explore my sexual nature and embraced my enthusiasm. As an aside, I know a man who avoided sex with his wife because he cheated on her and did not wish to risk infecting his wife after he risked unprotected sex -- he would get tested and then sleep with her a few times until the next time he cheated.

Bottom line if you are not getting the physical intimacy you need and there is no medical reason why, then you are being abused in my book. I say this because it was only after being out of the relationship a couple years did I realize the damage my husband not desiring me caused me.

Women and Doctors/Men for that matter too

Not all doctors are created equal. If the doctor does not put you at ease, and makes one feel silly for asking questions or seeking greater pleasure out of you sex life for that matter, change doctors. A good GYN should care about sexual satisfaction and it's role in the overall health of a person. (Not to say sex is neccessary for health, but that being happy with the quality and quantity of intimacy is important.) Anyway, if you are not at ease look around. It may also be worthwhile to choose a nurse practicioner. The nursing model differs from the medical model. Nurisng sees health along a continum and not just absence of disease. Nursing also views the person as a biophysical, spiritual, psychological, wholistic being. Often times a nurse practitioner's view on human health and wellness makes them more open to exploring issues of emotional wellness, and sexual satisfaction. There are some excellent doctors that will make a person at ease and discuss these issues, there are nurse practioners that are not comfortable with this material so it isn't an absolute rule, but somethimes a NP is a better choice because of the philosophy of nursing is different than the philosophy of medicine. Look around, and no matter what the issue is NEVER settle for a practicioner that does not value your questions or input. They may be the expert on medicine - but you are the expert on you!.

Advice from a nurse!

PS. What to ask:

Ask about any sign expereinced and if it is usual or not.

Even if it is usual, if it is disturbing, ask if there are remedies to alieviate the problem either completely or partially.

Share what your goal would be – share what it is like for you now. There may be peices in your story that clue a good practioner into posible contributory causes. For example - depression, or the decrease of feel good neurochemicals can decrease sex drive, - yet some antidepressents lower sex drive, and others can improve it. Is weight issues affecting self esteem, could appetite suppressents help the person loose the 10 pounds needed to feel better about self. Is it a matter of dryness - there are external products that can alieviate vaginal dryness not just for an hour or two, but for a couple of days. There are many causes to changes in sex drive. Medications, emotional, biochemical physical issue – a valuable primary care person MD or RN will listen and be willing to explore posible causes and remedies. If it is important to your wife it should be important to her medical provider – seek that person out!

Re: What's Wrong With Me?

Nothing is wrong with you. You were tricked into moving in with a man who has little or no real interest in sex. He put on a show while he was courting you and the minute he got you into his household and away from everyone else you loved, he lowered the boom. "I don't believe in sex." Or some other such GARBAGE. If he doesn't believe in sex, I know a nice monastery he can move to.

This isn't much different than dating a man who convinces you he's got a big bankbook or is single and fancy free, and then finding out the minute he has you where he wants you, that he is broke or married.

Don't go without. He was not honest with you. This isn't a situation where sex drops off slowly over time because of aging/boredom/medical problems or whatever. No patience on your part will turn it around. Get out.

And good luck to you.

I totally agree with you

I totally agree with you.

rgds steve

stevekeswani@hotmail.com

move on!

I read your posting and felt so sad for you because it sounds totally like my story too! The only difference is that I had 4 children when I married him. I sold my home too and moved to his country (Germany). I walked away from a beautiful career and stability... and for what, i ask myself. I am ready to throw this learning mistake to the wind and go home. learn from this and be smarter. I will not beg for his attention and I dont think any woman should ever have to feel they are begging for love and sex. Its time to move on!! Thats my 2 cents!

reply to "what's wrong with me?"

You and I are in the same boat, honey. I have been married only 6 months and my husband almost NEVER touches me. I figured the lack of sex was because we lived an hour away from each other, but now we're living under one roof, he never shows any desire. Like you, he constantly tells me he loves me and how great I am, how lucky he is, etc. We only have sex when I initiate. I have never felt so unloved and unwanted my whole life. I have tried everything, but he seems to avoid me by making excuses ("let me get coffee first", "I am tired", "the kids are in the next room") I have suggested going to adult toy stores, adult movies (which he watches on his computer, but never invites me), you name it. There is absolutely no interest or passion on his part. It's not only about sex, it's about touching and feeling that desire that gives you goosebumps. I need his touch now more than after after recently suffering of breast cancer and a partial mastectomy. He was amazing taking care of me, so much it made me cry at how wonderful he was. But sometimes I feel like his patient more than his wife. I am extremely attractive, in great shape and turn many heads when I am out and about. What am I supposed to do for the rest of my life? "wait" until HE feels like it??

communication

if you haven't already, perhaps you should try talking to him. if he doesn't know you are miserable with the current situation, nothing will change. but if you talk to him, tell him what you need and want, there is a chance things will improve.

Interesting

I think there's a lot of merit to this article, actually. And I'm also surprised by some of the comments. My own experience has been that it's not a matter of "caring" for the other person. As a man, if I'm not excited, I don't get hard, and I don't have sex. And it's not something that's just a matter of willpower.

In my relationship with my last girlfriend, I found her libido stronger than mine. Not willing to appear unmanly, I'd go up for the challenge. Some six months later, I was exhausted and avoiding her. Interestingly, it wasn't unsexiness on her part, or carelessness on mine. I had developed a myriad of psychological tricks to force myself to perform when I didn't feel like it. And I seriously started resenting and dreading her. Her reaction was just as understandable; she sensed that sex wasn't fun for me, and she enjoyed it less herself.

What I can't fathom on this board is how many selfish, needy lovers there are. I know you're horny, but six months of quiet masturbation isn't going to kill you if it means not looking like a desperate, selfish, sex hungry pest in front of the person you love. Chill out, back off, and stop acting like a sex-spoilt brat. It'll come back naturally once you stop complaining, demanding and otherwise acting like a sexual bore.

Cheers,
Jason

Perhaps waiting six months do

Perhaps waiting six months doesn't seem like much to some, but if waiting and being silent for six months has to happen on top of two years having sex once or twice a month, it's a bit much to ask.

My libido was understood and accepted before I got married. I was told that I'd never be made to feel like lovers in the past have made feel. I'd never hate my sexuality again because he would always cherish it and it made him so happy to finally be with someone who matched up to his sex drive and blah, blah, blah. Three years later and I'm married to a monk.

I don't even bother to touch him any more. I don't wander around naked and I don't attempt seduction. I don't even have much of a libido left, honestly. I just cook and clean and work 45 - 50 hours a week and hand over my paycheck. There's no nagging; he's not expected to do anything and I don't even 'hope' for anything anymore. I pretend to be happy but thank god I've recently found some local friends because I think I'd have gone insane from the loneliness.

My word of advice: don't let it get to this point. Don't spend the rest of your life waiting and hoping to be happy and satisfied. You get stuck.

Six months?

Sound like a terrible long time to me too. Your life sounds absolutely awful to me. You do too much. If this man isn't doing anything at all for you, why are you handing your paycheck over to him? Stop giving him money, and ease up on the cooking and cleaning. I don't really know what to say about the sex, but if he doesn't want to have sex with you, maybe you should start looking for somone who does. Frankly, though, it sounds to me like you need a rest.

Louise

spouse who has no desire for sex

While I can appreciate all advice given to those whose spouses are uninterested in sex, if no one minds, I'm going to throw in my two-cents. I have what would seem to be a hereditarily high - REALLY HIGH - sex drive. My husband has NO DRIVE. It makes me "climb the walls" as well. I too have tried everything I can to engage him, and the only way I can get him to put-out is to stick and prod at his male pride. I've shown him the scripture in the Bible where it says in 1 Corinthians 7:3-5 that spouses are not to withhold sex from each other or infidelity can occur (Satan will tempt due to lack of self-control). He was indifferent. I've had to actually threaten to leave him so that I could "find someone who likes sex"! That works for the moment, but then what? I'm right back where I was - sexually deprived and in great need! If a spouse stops making him/herself attractive and doesn't give any sign of having an interest, the "cold" spouse may feel it's no longer important, feel relieved (they won) or maybe take a "that suits me just fine" attitude, in which case, the "live" spouse has just help put the nails in the coffin. I say have a sit down, deeply honest talk about the why of this problem. No yelling or whining, just seriously talk. I know this is ugly, but sometimes there's another person involved, or just plain no love left. The problem may also be medical or hormonal. You're not going to know unless you come straight out and ask. Don't allow yourself to get shrugged off. Get an answer! A full honest answer, not a weak one. Don't put up with any snappishness either. Demand an answer for that as well! Looking back and recalling a comment one of his friends made, my husband never had an interest in sex. It's always been a very dim light, especially when I'm competing with ESPN! He and I weren't right for each other, but what do I do now? The Bible says I can only divorce for infidelity - ha! Fat chance! I'm trying to get him into this lifestyle of male dominance, hoping it will help. Oh, what an uphill battle!!! I hope everyone else out there has better results. Thanks for letting me rattle!

low sex drive

Trishymouse, your partner is just like my husband! Wow! I wonder if they know each other..... Like yours, my husband has no problem getting an erection or having an orgasm, but it doesn't last long (why do I even bother to take my clothes off?). When we do have it, it seems scripted and unnatural for him (he's nowhere near being gay). He mentions wanting it when it's that time of the month and he knows we can't. I get so frustrated and angry. Do you know how many men would love to have women like us who are willing to "put out" anytime, anyplace, in whatever position?(oh,except anal sex) Our men just don't appreciate us!

hormones

I developed a hormone problem right after I had our first son. My colossal sex drive petered out to nothing, but my husband, who never wanted sex before, suddenly wanted it all the time, We had flip-flopped! I NEVER told him 'no', or even let him know that I had no interest. I ALWAYS accomodated. Even when it's that time of the month I'm at least willing to satisfy him orally. Yes, hormones were a problem, until..... I had our second son. My sex drive came back with a vengence, and his... well, his died...AGAIN!

neglected

a clue

if he wanted you when you stopped wanting sex, isn't that a clue? it seems like your desire may be killing his, and if so, you can fix this. try what it says in the article above.

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